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Our Latest Series

Our current series, “The Complexion of Teaching and Learning," is a docu-series exploring the historical, political, and professional insights and experiences of educators of color. The series is hosted by Brandon White (Twitter: @ClassroomB), an ELA Specialist for UnboundEd and former middle school ELA teacher and Restorative Practices educator for the Rochester City School District. To get the most out of this series, we recommend you start from episode one.

Episode Six:

Episode 6, “Invisible Taxes,” brings us post-Brown v. Board, where we begin to see the foundations of a “new” system quickly revert to the regeneration of discriminatory practices that Black, Latino, and Indigenous educators continue to navigate today. It takes us through the roots of inequitable recruitment and professional development through a series of conversations between educators and researchers. The b-side features a candid conversation between White and Dr. Alfred Tatum, provost and executive vice president for academic affairs at Metropolitan State University of Denver, as they discuss the lack of diversity in today’s teaching population.

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UnboundEd · The Complexion of The Teaching and Learning - Episode 6 - “Invisible Taxes”
UnboundEd · The Complexion of The Teaching and Learning - Episode 6 - “Invisible Taxes” (Part 2)
Episode notes

The following scholars and texts are featured in episode six:

  • Dr. Wayne Au, professor of educational studies at University of Washington Bothell
  • Sharif El-Mekki, founder of the Center for Black Educator Development
  • Dr. Christopher Emdin, associate professor of science education at the Teachers College, Columbia University and author of “For White Folks Who Teach in the Hood And The Rest of Y’all Too”
  • John B. King, CEO of The Education Trust and former Secretary of Education
  • Dr. Tiffany King, assistant professor of women's, gender, and sexuality studies at Georgia State University
  • Dr. Alfred Tatum, provost and executive vice president for academic affairs at Metropolitan State University of Denver
  • Dana Goldstein, reporter for the New York Times and the author of “The Teacher Wars”
  • “Does the Negro Need Separate Schools?” by WEB Dubois
  • “If You Listen, We Will Stay: Why Teachers of Color Leave and How to Disrupt Teacher Turnover” by The Education Trust
  • “Latino Education in the United States: A Narrated History from 1513–2000” by Victoria Maria-MacDonald
  • “Learning in a Burning House: Educational Inequality, Ideology, and (Dis)Integration” by Sonya Douglass Horsford
  • “Our Stories, Our Struggles, Our Strengths: Perspectives and Reflections From Latino Teachers” by The Education Trust
  • “Silent Covenants: Brown v. Board of Education and the Unfulfilled Hopes for Racial Reform” by Derrick Bell
  • “The Lost Education of Horace Tate” by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • “We Want to Do More Than Survive” by Bettina Love
Episode Five:

This episode, titled “Brown v. Board’s Double-Edged Sword,” host Brandon White continues to explore the untold impacts of the Brown v. Board court decision that declared segregation unconstitutional in schools and other institutions. This episode’s “B-side” features a conversation between White and Dr. Tanji Reed Marshall, Director of P-12 Practice at The Education Trust.

UnboundEd · The Complexion of The Teaching and Learning - Episode 5 - “Brown v. Board’s Double-Edged Sword”
Episode notes

The following scholars and texts are featured in episode five:

  • Dana Goldstein, Teacher Wars: A History of America’s Most Embattled Profession
  • Sonya Douglass Horsford, Learning in a Burning House: Educational Inequality, Ideology, and (Dis)Integration
  • Kofi Lomotey, Sailing Against the Wind: African Americans and Women in U.S. Education
  • Dr. Victoria Maria-MacDonald, Latino Education in the United States: A Narrated History from 1513–2000
  • Vanessa Siddle Walker, The Lost Education of Horace Tate
Episode Four:

In part one of episode four, Brandon takes us through the early to mid 20th century, leading up to the pivotal Brown v. Board decision, as educators and communities of color grapple with the nation’s expansion and how it challenges their ways of teaching and learning. The conversation continues to the "B-side" as he gets close and personal perspectives from Dr. Gail Perry-Ryder on her own journey as an educator and researcher.

Episode notes

The following scholars and texts are featured in episode four:

  • "Latino Education in the United States: A Narrated History from 1513–2000" by Victoria Maria-MacDonald
  • "Silent Covenants: Brown v. Board of Education and the Unfulfilled Hopes for Racial Reform" by Derrick Bell
  • "The Lost Education of Horace Tate" by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • "Eugenics and Education in America: Institutionalized Racism and the Implications of History, Ideology, and Memory" by Ann Winfield
  • "Learning in a Burning House: Educational Inequality, Ideology, and (Dis)Integration" by Sonya Douglass Horsford (Twitter: @SonyaHorsford)
  • "Reclaiming the Multicultural Roots of U.S. Curriculum" by Wayne Au, Anthony Brown, and Dolores Calderon
Episode Three:

This episode continues exploring the oppression, resilience, and contributions of Black, Asian, and Native American educators during a period of American segregation and expansion. Keep listening for the “B-side” conversation with Lacey Robinson, president, and CEO of UnboundEd.

Episode notes

The following scholars and texts are featured in episode three:

  • "Red Pedagogy" by Sandy Grande
  • "Self Taught: African American Education and Freedom" by Heather Andrea Williams
  • "Indigenous and Decolonizing Studies in Education", Edited by Linda Tuhiwai Smith, Eve Tuck, and K. Wayne Yang
  • "Hidden Provocateurs: Black Educators in a Century of Secret Struggle" by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • "The Lost Education of Horace Tate" by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • "Reclaiming the Multicultural Roots of U.S. Curriculum" by Wayne Au, Anthony Brown, and Dolores Calderon
  • "Latino Education in the United States" by Victoria Maria MacDonald
  • "The White Architects of Black Education" by William Watkins
Episode Two:

Take a journey with Brandon post-slavery as he discusses how education practices in different ethnic groups were oppressed by systemic racism.

Episode notes

The following scholars and texts are featured in episode two:

  • "Red Pedagogy" by Sandy Grande
  • "Self Taught: African American Education and Freedom" by Heather Andrea Williams
  • "Indigenous and Decolonizing Studies in Education", Edited by Linda Tuhiwai Smith, Eve Tuck, and K. Wayne Yang
  • "Hidden Provocateurs: Black Educators in a Century of Secret Struggle" by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • "The Lost Education of Horace Tate" by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • "Reclaiming the Multicultural Roots of U.S. Curriculum" by Wayne Au, Anthony Brown, and Dolores Calderon
  • "Latino Education in the United States" by Victoria Maria MacDonald
  • "The White Architects of Black Education" by William Watkins
Episode One: 

In the first episode of this series, Brandon highlights the connections between his experiences as an educator of color and the experience of black educators before, during, and immediately after slavery.

Episode notes

The following scholars and texts are featured in episode one:

  • "Self Taught: African American Education and Freedom" by Heather Andrea Williams
  • "Hidden Provocateurs: Black Educators in a Century of Secret Struggle" by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • "The Lost Education of Horace Tate" by Vanessa Siddle Walker
  • "Schooling Citizens: The Struggle For African American Education in Antebellum America" by Hilary J. Moss
  • "The Egyptian Philosophers: Ancient African Voices from Imhotep to Akhenaten" by Molefi Asante (Twitter: @Molefiasante)

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UnboundEd · Practitioner & Scholar Interviews

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